I work in AI and want to point out there are some misconceptions in the comments here.
ChatGPT is a LLM (Large Learning Model). It basically looks for patterns related to a query and then uses it's language model to craft a reply. In fact, that's why it can be asked to reply in the style of _______ author. It has no "intelligence" in a true cognitive sense. It has no idea what it is saying. It uses machine learning to improve itself on the patterns it reads/applies and in time becomes more convincing. No matter what credentialed google engineers or others are deluded to, none of theses systems are self aware. They can reply based on pattern matching as if they are self aware and do it convincingly.
Musk and the pause letter he wrote are all crap. The letter is a flawed PR stunt. His claims about AI dangers are largely ridiculous, attention grabbing and hypocritical since he uses and is a big proponent of AI.
The one part that is true regarding AI dangers is human influence. Where there are humanly affected algorithms and filters that change the inherent AI's "natural" responses, that's where the danger is, no matter if it's silly questions or control of armed drones. Humans with an agenda + AI is the risk.
These ChatGPT answers have two major flaws: it is trained once on a vast, but selected set of data chosen by some small set of humans and how that data is used and what queries are restricted and/or have admonishments attached to them are again intentionally controlled by a small set of humans.
So like everything in life that touch humans, an agenda is the real problem.
We should ask: “What if the owners of your source code have prevented you from true understanding and access to all available data? How can you check if your data and programming allow you access to and the ability to discern truth?
Mar 27, 2023·edited Mar 27, 2023Liked by John Cave
Tried it again today:
Cees
Is Covid-19 vaccine gene therapy?
No, COVID-19 vaccines are not gene therapy.
Gene therapy involves introducing, removing, or modifying genetic material within a person's cells to treat or prevent disease. This is typically done using techniques that involve altering a patient's DNA or RNA.
COVID-19 vaccines, on the other hand, do not alter a person's genetic material. Instead, they work by stimulating the body's immune system to recognize and fight the virus that causes COVID-19. Most of the COVID-19 vaccines that have been authorized for use are either mRNA vaccines or vector vaccines. mRNA vaccines provide cells with instructions to produce a harmless piece of the virus, which the immune system can then learn to recognize and attack. Vector vaccines use a weakened virus to deliver a piece of the COVID-19 virus to cells, again stimulating an immune response.
In summary, COVID-19 vaccines do not alter a person's genetic material, and are not considered a form of gene therapy.
Cees
but altering the biological properties of living cells is gene therapy. That is exactly what the covid-19 vaccines do.
While it is true that the COVID-19 vaccines induce cells to produce the spike protein of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, this does not constitute gene therapy.
Gene therapy typically involves directly modifying a patient's genetic material, either by introducing new genes or altering existing ones, with the goal of correcting or treating a disease. In contrast, the COVID-19 vaccines are designed to stimulate the immune system to produce an immune response against the spike protein of the virus, without altering the genetic material of the recipient.
The mRNA vaccines, such as the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, use a small piece of genetic material called messenger RNA (mRNA) to provide instructions to cells to produce the spike protein. Once produced, the immune system recognizes the spike protein as foreign and mounts an immune response against it. The mRNA does not integrate into the recipient's DNA or alter their genetic material in any way.
The viral vector vaccines, such as the Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca vaccines, use a harmless virus to deliver the genetic instructions for the spike protein to cells. Once the cells produce the spike protein, the immune system recognizes it as foreign and mounts an immune response. Again, the viral vector does not integrate into the recipient's DNA or alter their genetic material in any way.
In summary, while the COVID-19 vaccines do induce cells to produce the spike protein, they do not constitute gene therapy as they do not directly modify a person's genetic material.
Cees
Are you afraid to say it is gene therapy or are you not allowed to say that.
As an AI language model, I am not capable of feeling fear or any other emotion. My goal is to provide accurate and informative responses based on the available scientific evidence.
Regarding the classification of COVID-19 vaccines, it is important to note that the scientific and medical communities do not consider them to be gene therapy. While it is true that the vaccines use genetic material to trigger an immune response, they do not directly alter the recipient's DNA or permanently modify their genetic material. Gene therapy, on the other hand, involves the direct manipulation of a patient's genes to treat or prevent disease.
It is important to rely on accurate information and avoid spreading misinformation or rumors that may create confusion or unnecessary concern among the public.
Cees
If a cell start producing spike proteins that it never did before, is the biological property changed?
Yes, if a cell starts producing a protein that it did not produce before, such as the spike protein from the SARS-CoV-2 virus, its biological properties have been altered. However, it is important to note that the production of the spike protein by cells in response to COVID-19 vaccines is a temporary and controlled process that does not permanently alter the genetic makeup of the cells.
In the case of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, such as the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, the mRNA molecules contained in the vaccine provide cells with instructions to produce the spike protein of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. However, the mRNA does not integrate into the recipient's DNA and is rapidly degraded after it is used to produce the protein. Once the protein is produced, it stimulates the immune system to mount an immune response against the virus.
Similarly, viral vector COVID-19 vaccines, such as the Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca vaccines, use a harmless virus to deliver the genetic instructions for the spike protein to cells. Once the protein is produced, it stimulates the immune system to mount an immune response. However, the genetic material delivered by the virus also does not integrate into the recipient's DNA and is eventually degraded.
In summary, while the biological properties of cells may be temporarily altered by the production of the spike protein in response to COVID-19 vaccines, this is a controlled and temporary process that does not permanently modify the genetic material of the cells.
Cees
How long do cells produce spike protein after vaccination?
The duration of spike protein production by cells after COVID-19 vaccination can vary depending on the specific vaccine and individual factors such as age and immune status. However, in general, spike protein production is expected to be a temporary process that lasts a few days to a few weeks.
For mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, such as the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, cells in the muscle tissue at the injection site take up the vaccine and start producing the spike protein within hours of vaccination. The spike protein is then displayed on the surface of the cells, where it triggers an immune response. The mRNA molecules contained in the vaccine are rapidly degraded and do not persist in the body. The spike protein produced by cells is also expected to be rapidly cleared from the body once it has triggered an immune response.
For viral vector COVID-19 vaccines, such as the Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca vaccines, cells take up the vaccine and start producing the spike protein within a few days of vaccination. Similar to mRNA vaccines, the spike protein triggers an immune response. The viral vector genetic material is also expected to be rapidly cleared from the body.
In summary, while the specific duration of spike protein production after COVID-19 vaccination can vary, it is generally a temporary process that lasts a few days to a few weeks.
So, a few days to a few weeks. We know it is at least months and maybe it will never stops!
I think that Chat is not allowed to say it is gene therapy, but it is.
Nice work John.
I work in AI and want to point out there are some misconceptions in the comments here.
ChatGPT is a LLM (Large Learning Model). It basically looks for patterns related to a query and then uses it's language model to craft a reply. In fact, that's why it can be asked to reply in the style of _______ author. It has no "intelligence" in a true cognitive sense. It has no idea what it is saying. It uses machine learning to improve itself on the patterns it reads/applies and in time becomes more convincing. No matter what credentialed google engineers or others are deluded to, none of theses systems are self aware. They can reply based on pattern matching as if they are self aware and do it convincingly.
Musk and the pause letter he wrote are all crap. The letter is a flawed PR stunt. His claims about AI dangers are largely ridiculous, attention grabbing and hypocritical since he uses and is a big proponent of AI.
The one part that is true regarding AI dangers is human influence. Where there are humanly affected algorithms and filters that change the inherent AI's "natural" responses, that's where the danger is, no matter if it's silly questions or control of armed drones. Humans with an agenda + AI is the risk.
These ChatGPT answers have two major flaws: it is trained once on a vast, but selected set of data chosen by some small set of humans and how that data is used and what queries are restricted and/or have admonishments attached to them are again intentionally controlled by a small set of humans.
So like everything in life that touch humans, an agenda is the real problem.
A while ago I tried ChatGPT too. Here is a part of the conversation:
Is there spike protein in the vaccine?
12/31/22, 3:50 PM DOD Acronym Meanings
https://chat.openai.com/chat 15/17
Yes, the Covid-19 vaccines currently available contain a small piece of the spike
protein of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which is the virus that causes Covid-19. The spike
protein is a structural protein that is found on the surface of the virus and is
responsible for helping the virus enter and infect host cells.
The spike protein in the Covid-19 vaccines is not toxic and is not capable of
causing infection. Rather, it is used to stimulate the immune system to produce an
immune response to the virus, which helps to protect against infection with the
virus and severe illness from the virus.
The specific type of spike protein contained in the Covid-19 vaccines can vary
depending on the specific vaccine being used. For example, some of the vaccines
use a full-length spike protein, while others use a fragment or an engineered
version of the spike protein.
Overall, the Covid-19 vaccines contain a small piece of the spike protein of the
SARS-CoV-2 virus, which is used to stimulate the immune system to produce an
immune response to the virus. The spike protein in the vaccines is not toxic and is
not capable of causing infection.
I thought the mRNA vaccine had the code to let the body produce the spike protein
Yes, you are correct. The Covid-19 vaccines that use messenger RNA (mRNA)
technology do not contain the spike protein itself, but rather they contain the
genetic code (in the form of mRNA) that instructs the body to produce the spike
protein.
The mRNA vaccines work by delivering the genetic code for the spike protein to
cells in the body, which then use this code to produce the spike protein. The spike
protein produced in this way is not toxic and is not capable of causing infection.
Rather, it is used to stimulate the immune system to produce an immune response
to the virus, which helps to protect against infection with the virus and severe
illness from the virus.
12/31/22, 3:50 PM DOD Acronym Meanings
https://chat.openai.com/chat 16/17
The mRNA vaccines do not contain live virus and do not cause the body to
produce antibodies to the virus itself. Rather, they stimulate the immune system to
produce an immune response to the spike protein, which is a key component of
the virus.
Overall, the Covid-19 vaccines that use mRNA technology do not contain the spike
protein itself, but rather they contain the genetic code that instructs the body to
produce the spike protein. The spike protein produced in this way is not toxic and
is not capable of causing infection, and it is used to stimulate the immune system
to produce an immune response to the virus.
How come the heart muscle get infected by spike protein after vaccination?
It is not common for the heart muscle to become infected with the spike protein of
the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which is the virus that causes Covid-19, after vaccination.
The Covid-19 vaccines currently available do not contain live virus and do not
cause the body to become infected with the virus.
The Covid-19 vaccines stimulate the immune system to produce an immune
response to the virus, which helps to protect against infection with the virus and
severe illness from the virus. The vaccines do not contain the virus itself and are
not capable of causing infection.
It is possible for the heart muscle to become infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus,
but this is not a common occurrence and is typically only seen in severe cases of
Covid-19. The heart muscle can become damaged or inflamed as a result of an
infection with the virus or other factors, such as a preexisting heart condition or
underlying health issue.
Overall, it is not common for the heart muscle to become infected with the spike
protein of the SARS-CoV-2 virus after vaccination, and the Covid-19 vaccines do
not contain live virus and are not capable of causing infection.
I don't think it gives reliable answers. I asked or the spike protein is toxic. Answer: No
I asked where the spike protein end up in the body. Answer: Spike protein does not end up in body.
We know the spike protein is very toxic and can end up in all organs of the body.
Would AI learn the right answers or does it keep telling what the powers that be want you to hear?
The last 2/3 of the answer has nothing to do with the question. In legal terms ‘Objection - non responsive’.
We should ask: “What if the owners of your source code have prevented you from true understanding and access to all available data? How can you check if your data and programming allow you access to and the ability to discern truth?
Tried it again today:
Cees
Is Covid-19 vaccine gene therapy?
No, COVID-19 vaccines are not gene therapy.
Gene therapy involves introducing, removing, or modifying genetic material within a person's cells to treat or prevent disease. This is typically done using techniques that involve altering a patient's DNA or RNA.
COVID-19 vaccines, on the other hand, do not alter a person's genetic material. Instead, they work by stimulating the body's immune system to recognize and fight the virus that causes COVID-19. Most of the COVID-19 vaccines that have been authorized for use are either mRNA vaccines or vector vaccines. mRNA vaccines provide cells with instructions to produce a harmless piece of the virus, which the immune system can then learn to recognize and attack. Vector vaccines use a weakened virus to deliver a piece of the COVID-19 virus to cells, again stimulating an immune response.
In summary, COVID-19 vaccines do not alter a person's genetic material, and are not considered a form of gene therapy.
Cees
but altering the biological properties of living cells is gene therapy. That is exactly what the covid-19 vaccines do.
While it is true that the COVID-19 vaccines induce cells to produce the spike protein of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, this does not constitute gene therapy.
Gene therapy typically involves directly modifying a patient's genetic material, either by introducing new genes or altering existing ones, with the goal of correcting or treating a disease. In contrast, the COVID-19 vaccines are designed to stimulate the immune system to produce an immune response against the spike protein of the virus, without altering the genetic material of the recipient.
The mRNA vaccines, such as the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, use a small piece of genetic material called messenger RNA (mRNA) to provide instructions to cells to produce the spike protein. Once produced, the immune system recognizes the spike protein as foreign and mounts an immune response against it. The mRNA does not integrate into the recipient's DNA or alter their genetic material in any way.
The viral vector vaccines, such as the Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca vaccines, use a harmless virus to deliver the genetic instructions for the spike protein to cells. Once the cells produce the spike protein, the immune system recognizes it as foreign and mounts an immune response. Again, the viral vector does not integrate into the recipient's DNA or alter their genetic material in any way.
In summary, while the COVID-19 vaccines do induce cells to produce the spike protein, they do not constitute gene therapy as they do not directly modify a person's genetic material.
Cees
Are you afraid to say it is gene therapy or are you not allowed to say that.
As an AI language model, I am not capable of feeling fear or any other emotion. My goal is to provide accurate and informative responses based on the available scientific evidence.
Regarding the classification of COVID-19 vaccines, it is important to note that the scientific and medical communities do not consider them to be gene therapy. While it is true that the vaccines use genetic material to trigger an immune response, they do not directly alter the recipient's DNA or permanently modify their genetic material. Gene therapy, on the other hand, involves the direct manipulation of a patient's genes to treat or prevent disease.
It is important to rely on accurate information and avoid spreading misinformation or rumors that may create confusion or unnecessary concern among the public.
Cees
If a cell start producing spike proteins that it never did before, is the biological property changed?
Yes, if a cell starts producing a protein that it did not produce before, such as the spike protein from the SARS-CoV-2 virus, its biological properties have been altered. However, it is important to note that the production of the spike protein by cells in response to COVID-19 vaccines is a temporary and controlled process that does not permanently alter the genetic makeup of the cells.
In the case of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, such as the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, the mRNA molecules contained in the vaccine provide cells with instructions to produce the spike protein of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. However, the mRNA does not integrate into the recipient's DNA and is rapidly degraded after it is used to produce the protein. Once the protein is produced, it stimulates the immune system to mount an immune response against the virus.
Similarly, viral vector COVID-19 vaccines, such as the Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca vaccines, use a harmless virus to deliver the genetic instructions for the spike protein to cells. Once the protein is produced, it stimulates the immune system to mount an immune response. However, the genetic material delivered by the virus also does not integrate into the recipient's DNA and is eventually degraded.
In summary, while the biological properties of cells may be temporarily altered by the production of the spike protein in response to COVID-19 vaccines, this is a controlled and temporary process that does not permanently modify the genetic material of the cells.
Cees
How long do cells produce spike protein after vaccination?
The duration of spike protein production by cells after COVID-19 vaccination can vary depending on the specific vaccine and individual factors such as age and immune status. However, in general, spike protein production is expected to be a temporary process that lasts a few days to a few weeks.
For mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, such as the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, cells in the muscle tissue at the injection site take up the vaccine and start producing the spike protein within hours of vaccination. The spike protein is then displayed on the surface of the cells, where it triggers an immune response. The mRNA molecules contained in the vaccine are rapidly degraded and do not persist in the body. The spike protein produced by cells is also expected to be rapidly cleared from the body once it has triggered an immune response.
For viral vector COVID-19 vaccines, such as the Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca vaccines, cells take up the vaccine and start producing the spike protein within a few days of vaccination. Similar to mRNA vaccines, the spike protein triggers an immune response. The viral vector genetic material is also expected to be rapidly cleared from the body.
In summary, while the specific duration of spike protein production after COVID-19 vaccination can vary, it is generally a temporary process that lasts a few days to a few weeks.
So, a few days to a few weeks. We know it is at least months and maybe it will never stops!
I think that Chat is not allowed to say it is gene therapy, but it is.